Comments on: “Utterly filthy! The songs all display a grand helping of wit, though Mendoza’s predilection toward perversion can grow a bit wearisome.” – Dean Carrico, Honolulu Weekly http://hpmendoza.com/fruitflyfilm/2009/10/15/utterly-filthy-the-songs-all-display-a-grand-helping-of-wit-though-mendoza%e2%80%99s-predilection-toward-perversion-can-grow-a-bit-wearisome-dean-carrico-honolulu-weekly/ Mon, 13 Sep 2010 04:40:36 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.2 By: H.P. Mendoza http://hpmendoza.com/fruitflyfilm/2009/10/15/utterly-filthy-the-songs-all-display-a-grand-helping-of-wit-though-mendoza%e2%80%99s-predilection-toward-perversion-can-grow-a-bit-wearisome-dean-carrico-honolulu-weekly/comment-page-1/#comment-602 H.P. Mendoza Mon, 13 Sep 2010 04:40:36 +0000 http://hpmendoza.com/fruitflyfilm/?p=156#comment-602 Dean, no, let's keep this public. That's the beauty of the modern age. You published it publicly, so I'm responding publicly. The beauty of online film criticism is that people can respond instantaneously. :) There's one song ("We Have So Much in Common") in which the second half goes into graphic detail about sexual acts. ONE. A song that's 3 minutes and 41 seconds. Nowhere else in the movie does it get as graphic as that. Certainly not in the lyrics. I reserved all of the raunchiness for that one song, and it's an indictment of the over sexualized nature of gay hookups. I'd like for you to cite other instances in which perversion pops up in the movie. If you say that the predilection toward perversion grows wearisome in the "We Have So Much in Common" the 11th of 19 songs, then I'll accept that (even though I stand by the fact that the raunchiness lasts for half of a 4 minute song). But your statement is "The songs all display a grand helping of wit, though Mendoza's predilection toward perversion can grow a bit wearisome". I can take all kinds of criticism. Hell, a movie critic called me "downright ugly" and I knew it was only his opinion. But, going off of the sentiment implied by the construction of your sentence, I'd like for you to cite other instances in the other songs in Fruit Fly which show my "predilection toward perversion". H.P. Dean, no, let’s keep this public. That’s the beauty of the modern age. You published it publicly, so I’m responding publicly. The beauty of online film criticism is that people can respond instantaneously. :)

There’s one song (“We Have So Much in Common”) in which the second half goes into graphic detail about sexual acts. ONE. A song that’s 3 minutes and 41 seconds. Nowhere else in the movie does it get as graphic as that. Certainly not in the lyrics. I reserved all of the raunchiness for that one song, and it’s an indictment of the over sexualized nature of gay hookups.

I’d like for you to cite other instances in which perversion pops up in the movie. If you say that the predilection toward perversion grows wearisome in the “We Have So Much in Common” the 11th of 19 songs, then I’ll accept that (even though I stand by the fact that the raunchiness lasts for half of a 4 minute song). But your statement is “The songs all display a grand helping of wit, though Mendoza’s predilection toward perversion can grow a bit wearisome”.

I can take all kinds of criticism. Hell, a movie critic called me “downright ugly” and I knew it was only his opinion. But, going off of the sentiment implied by the construction of your sentence, I’d like for you to cite other instances in the other songs in Fruit Fly which show my “predilection toward perversion”.

H.P.

]]> By: Loren Pettine http://hpmendoza.com/fruitflyfilm/2009/10/15/utterly-filthy-the-songs-all-display-a-grand-helping-of-wit-though-mendoza%e2%80%99s-predilection-toward-perversion-can-grow-a-bit-wearisome-dean-carrico-honolulu-weekly/comment-page-1/#comment-123 Loren Pettine Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:28:09 +0000 http://hpmendoza.com/fruitflyfilm/?p=156#comment-123 Right on! Among other logical fallacies in this "traditionalist" -ism is the 'appeal to common practice', embedded therein. After all, there's nothing healthy about being well adjusted to a sick society. Right on! Among other logical fallacies in this “traditionalist” -ism is the ‘appeal to common practice’, embedded therein. After all, there’s nothing healthy about being well adjusted to a sick society.

]]> By: Dean Carrico http://hpmendoza.com/fruitflyfilm/2009/10/15/utterly-filthy-the-songs-all-display-a-grand-helping-of-wit-though-mendoza%e2%80%99s-predilection-toward-perversion-can-grow-a-bit-wearisome-dean-carrico-honolulu-weekly/comment-page-1/#comment-34 Dean Carrico Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:17:11 +0000 http://hpmendoza.com/fruitflyfilm/?p=156#comment-34 Sorry I'm so late to the party. To clarify, I wasn't suggesting the acts, whether heterosexual or homosexual, were perverted in the sense that they were wrong. Only that the over-stimulation/suggestive aspects had grown tiresome. In example, I mean in-as-much as how South Park lost their edge from the overuse of profanity, and so they switched to topical humor. I welcome discussion, and you may reach me at deancarrico with the standard g-mail address, if you want to discuss this further. Sorry I’m so late to the party. To clarify, I wasn’t suggesting the acts, whether heterosexual or homosexual, were perverted in the sense that they were wrong. Only that the over-stimulation/suggestive aspects had grown tiresome. In example, I mean in-as-much as how South Park lost their edge from the overuse of profanity, and so they switched to topical humor. I welcome discussion, and you may reach me at deancarrico with the standard g-mail address, if you want to discuss this further.

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